Oscar Niemeyer and Norman Foster with Hans Ulrich Oberst.
Thank You Abitare!
This 'extraordinary encounter' is unlike an other and this conversation delves deep into architecture's core.
" Norman Foster I saw the little church, the chapel in Pampulha1, yesterday.
Oscar Niemeyer Pampulha is something so old; it does not represent what it once was… It has suffered many changes.
NF It was a very important building for me when I was 21 years old, before I started to study architecture…
ON It was my first work…
NF It was also the first influential project for me at the time and I discovered it almost by accident yesterday, I was driving past by car. I could not believe it, I saw it on the way from the airport. And then this morning I saw the Education building2 for the first time.
ON Pampulha was made in a hurry, and Brasília was also such a rush… I am very pleased with your visit because I appreciate your architecture.
NF I would like to say how much I appreciated the Education building2 this morning and how I was surprised by some of the things that I saw.
ON It is a work by Le Corbusier that we just developed… We changed many things: we put the building in the centre of the area, for example, but he did the initial croquis.
NF I saw that, but there are two things images cannot show. I thought it was a brilliant piece of city planning as well as architecturally brilliant: the shortcut underneath and the urban space I thought were stunning; it is only when you visit that you see it. But the other thing was that I have a feeling that the curves, the flowing curves did not come from Le Corbusier but from the translation of his diagram, and again that is something I think I discovered this morning.
ON We’ve changed many things…
NF Yes, yes, I see, but I thought it was more than a change: I felt it was a transformation not just a modification, if you understand the difference. I felt it was more profound. "
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